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AARON CARTER:
Hey, everybody, how you doing?

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Aaron Carter. What's up?

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♪

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I just wanna thank all of you guys
that have been real with me.

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I finally got to this point
in my life where I can say,

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"You know what?

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"You're-you're-you're doing good, bro.

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Like, you're doing good, Aaron."

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And nobody can take that away from me.

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MELANIE MARTIN:
Aw.

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You can see how kind

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and how warm and how sweet he was.

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You can just see it
in his eyes and his smile.

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- Say hi, little Prince.

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[Melanie chuckles]

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PRINCE LYRIC CARTER: Whoa.
MELANIE: Wow.

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Who's that, Princey?

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- Mommy.

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Daddy.

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MELANIE: Okay, that's your daddy.
PRINCE: Ooh.

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MELANIE [voice breaking]:
Before Aaron, I didn't really have,

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like, a purpose in life yet
and I feel like he gave me a purpose.

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And then now he's not here
to raise our son.

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[Melanie sniffles, sighs]

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[inhales, sighs]

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- Aaron Carter's life story
in one sentence.

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♪

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DISPATCHER [over radio]:
Attention, Lancaster units, code three.

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Response is needed.

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NEWSCASTER:
Aaron Carter has died.

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WHIT JOHNSON:
Sudden death of Aaron Carter.

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ELIZABETH VARGAS: What's it like
to be 12 years old and have groupies?

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[laughs]

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TAYLOR HELGESON:
He got the cards that were dealt.

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- Stop!

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JEFF COHEN:
Show business is a beast.

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- It's a shit show.

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It'll swallow you up.

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- It's almost like
he never stood a chance.

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- Once the addiction took over,

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that was running the show.

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CHRIS CONNELLY: The little prince of pop,
just 34 years old.

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AARON: We have to
give up something to get something.

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I gave up being a normal person

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to see the world.

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[crowd cheering]

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- Aaron Carter was like
quintessentially 2000s.

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- You know, not a lot of kids my age
get to do this kinda stuff.

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- He really encapsulated a lot
about that era.

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[cheering]

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- The first time
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I had already been in love
with his brother

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for a really long time.

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- ♪ Everybody ♪

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- Nick Carter is a member
of the Backstreet Boys.

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- ♪ Rock your body ♪

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- What's up, MTV?

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BRITTANY SPANOS:
Nick was traveling the world.

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This band was already
blowing up across the seas

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before they were coming back to the US.

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- ♪ Backstreet's back, alright ♪

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♪ Hey, yeah ♪

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♪ Well ♪

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♪ Oh, my God, we're back again ♪

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AJ:
Nick's mom would come out on the road

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and, you know,
Aaron would come out to hang out

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with his big brother.

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NICK CARTER:
It started to become

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to where he wanted to be with me

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and the only way that he could be with me

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was to do what I was doing.

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- ♪ Am I original? ♪

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- ♪ Yeah ♪

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AJ:
Aaron and Nick were pretty inseparable.

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NICK: Me and the boys,
we brought him out on tour

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over in Germany, Austria, Switzerland.

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- I believe Aaron was about nine
when he opened up for us...

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[cheering]

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...and when everything
really started for him.

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- ♪ Kick it ♪

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BRITTANY:
He performs with the Backstreet Boys

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and he's able to perform a cover
of the song Crush on You.

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- ♪ I got a crush on you ♪

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- There's a lot of kids who have siblings
that are in the business.

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But he was genuinely really good.

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- He went out there
and he just blew 'em all away.

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- ♪ You found out ♪

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♪ I've got a crush on you ♪

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[cheering]

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TAYLOR:
Once they saw the reaction...

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- Thank you, Berlin, I love you.

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- ...they were quick to scoop him up.

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BRITTANY:
Aaron is assigned to Jive Records,

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which is the label
that also a lot of the acts

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were being signed to at the time as well.

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- Lou saw the potential
and he-he ran with it.

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- Lou Pearlman was a music manager

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and a bit of a Svengali.

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He started the Backstreet Boys,
he started NSYNC.

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He ended up starting O-Town,

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and he was also Aaron Carter's manager.

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- He did know how to pick 'em.

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INTERVIEWER:
Were you kind of inspired by your brother

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to get into the whole singing thing or--

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- Oh, of course, you know,

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Nick, Nick was always my, my big idol

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and I've always wanted to be like him.

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[indistinct chatter]

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- I met Aaron when he had
just come from Germany.

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They were now launching Aaron
in the United States

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and they wanted to be sure

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that he was on the cover
of the teen magazines

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and had mass media coverage.

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REPORTER 1:
That kid is Aaron Carter.

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REPORTER 2:
Aaron, yeah, right there.

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One more time like that.

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- Aaron Carter,
is he hot or what?

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BRITTANY:
His real breakthrough would be

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at the height of-of it all,
it'd be in 2000.

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- ♪ People all around you got to ♪

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- ♪ Come get it ♪
- ♪ Everyone together sing it loud ♪

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- ♪ Come get it ♪

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- Aaron's Party came out in 2000.

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- ♪ Come get it ♪
- ♪ What? ♪

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All the bangers on it, I Want Candy.

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- ♪ I want candy ♪

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[inaudible]

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♪ I want candy ♪

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- My best friend's name was Tammy.

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When we were little, we would write like,
"I want Tammy."

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- ♪ I want candy ♪
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Catchy as hell.
- ♪ It's like boom ♪

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- That's How I Beat Shaq.

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- ♪ I put it in the hoop like slam ♪

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SCAACHI KOUL: He's making bank
playing with Shaquille O'Neal

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despite the fact that he's four feet tall.

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- ♪ Because that's how I beat Shaq ♪

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SCAACHI:
It was a really successful record.

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He sold millions of copies domestically.

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He became an international hit
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NEWSCASTER:
Phenomenon Aaron Carter.

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BRITTANY:
He's kind of like the turn-up king

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for 13-year-olds at this moment.

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- Now we can sort of look at Aaron Carter
and we can look at that album,

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we can look at how successful it was

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and see the precursor

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to a Justin Bieber or to Shawn Mendes.

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- Whoo, here we go.

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AJ:
Aaron's vibe and his sound

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in some ways was
very reminiscent of like young,

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young, young, young like Michael.

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- ♪ You gotta get up ♪

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- The really high voice.

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Kinda goofy awkwardness.

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ANNOUNCER:
Ladies and gentlemen,

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please welcome Aaron Carter.

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- You know, Michael Jackson
was known as the king of pop.

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- Hey, Michael.

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Hey, it's Aaron.

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PHIL LOBEL: And actually
bestowed upon Aaron Carter

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the title "the Little Prince of Pop."

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And that term stuck.

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- What's it like to be 12 years old
and have groupies?

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[laughs]

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- Well, they're not groupies,
they're fans.

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- They're fans?

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PHIL: The tour bus
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and the girls would be outside
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"We love Aaron,"

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and he'd get off the bus
and take pictures with the girls

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and he'd be signing records

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and signing the posters
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- He's really kind of becoming a part
of the teen idol scene at this time.

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- I very distinctly remember
Aaron on Lizzie McGuire.

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- Uh, okay, just hear me out.

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Aaron Carter coming here

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is the most exciting thing
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- And then they kiss,
which is also a really big deal.

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You get it on your VHS
and you rewind to play it again.

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BRITTANY: I mean, this is like
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of this era on Disney Channel.

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Hilary Duff's becoming like
a team queen of this moment

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and this becomes a huge turning point

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in terms of kind of fame and charm factor.

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[indistinct chatter]

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[crowd cheering]

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- It was the premiere
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- I'm nervous, Fred!

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- And I wanted to shoot
the two of them together on the carpet.

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So we stopped at a flower store

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and picked up a big bouquet of flowers.

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With the cameras shooting away,

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he presents to Hilary
this bouquet of flowers

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right on the carpet.

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And that was like
the start of this media frenzy

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that Aaron Carter was dating Hilary Duff.

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HILARY DUFF:
We're really good friends.

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CHARLES GIBSON:
Are you, are you, uh--

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Are you an item?

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SCAACHI:
It felt like kismet.

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These are like the cutest,
whitest, blondest people in the world

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and finally they have met
and fallen in love.

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It was Justin and Britney light.

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It was Justin Bieber and Selena light.

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You know, we've seen
these archetypes across generations.

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And it's doomed.

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- I just got a little bored.
INTERVIEWER: Okay.

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- So I went and I started
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Dating Lindsay.
INTERVIEWER: Dating.

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SCAACHI:
Lindsay Lohan is the kind of premier

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like teen actress of this moment.

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You have these twin flames to Aaron

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and then obviously
it turns into a love triangle.

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- This was a,

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an interesting kind of turning point
in tabloid culture.

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These are all teenagers
that people became overly invested in,

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everything about their lives.

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- Felt like you either had
to be like Team Lindsay

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or team Hilary,

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and it was ridiculous
and this was all over Aaron.

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These are kids.

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[inaudible]

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- He's a kid thinking
this is what real life is like,

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this is what it is,

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I can have anything I want.

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I can do anything I want.

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I can get any girl I want.

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I can get free clothes and things
sent to me and blah, blah.

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That's not reality.

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♪

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DR. TRAVIS STORK:
In some ways I think

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Aaron had to grow up too fast.

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♪

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But on the other hand,

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did he ever develop

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in the way a normal child might.

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I can't even think about
what my life would've been like

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if I was his age

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and all of a sudden I'm dealing

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with something that is too big to handle.

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♪

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I'm an ER doctor who, believe it or not,

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started on TV
as The Bachelor season eight.

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I remember thinking, "Boy, oh boy,
anyone who goes through this,

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if you don't have your shit together,
you are screwed."

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You tell me one childhood star

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who made it out unscathed.

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I can't think of one.

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Unless they had an incredibly
supportive system around them.

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♪

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SCAACHI:
The Carter family lived in Florida

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and there were a lot of kids.

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BRITTANY:
It was Nick, Bobbie Jean, then Leslie,

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and then Aaron and Angel.

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♪

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- And I've known Aaron since he was...

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[sighs]

286
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...probably three or four, maybe?

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The other siblings minus Nick

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were a little more subdued.

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Aaron was Nick,

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and they were very much
mirror images of each other.

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- They grew up pretty poor.

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- And we lived in-in a van in, uh,

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Florida for like a little bit.

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And really didn't have anything.

295
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Mom and Dad were trying to,
just trying to get started.

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When Aaron was born,

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things were starting
to get a little better.

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We had, like, a two-bedroom house,

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but we still had
five kids in one household

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with two bedrooms.

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It's just, you know,
it's so many different,

302
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you know, type of personalities.

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♪

304
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It's a crazy household
to live in, I'll tell you that.

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AARON:
Yeah. [laughs]

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♪

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[cheering]

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REPORTER:
Alright, guys, why don't we start off with

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what do the Teen Choice Awards
mean to you guys?

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- A lot of--

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- A lot of-- I don't know.
- Color.

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- It's a lot of fun, lot of fun.
- Color.

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- You know, people just come here
to just have fun.

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And that's why I'm here, you know.

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With him.

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REPORTER:
Have some good times?
- Yeah.

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SCAACHI:
The perception was that Aaron

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had a really fun, exciting,
glamorous, expensive life.

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And I don't think people understood

320
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that the reality was really dark.

321
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- Everything starts in the home.

322
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If there's issues between Mom and Dad,

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it's gonna have a huge effect on you.

324
00:12:19,114 --> 00:12:22,784
- I mean, the parents were
moving in the direction of a divorce.

325
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It certainly was leading to more arguments

326
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between Jane and Bob.

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SCAACHI:
I think Aaron always felt stuck

328
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between two very bombastic grownups.

329
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And he is this little kid
who is trying to keep the peace.

330
00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:44,473
- What was it like being
in the middle of your parents' divorce?

331
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- It was really, really tough
because, you know,

332
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sometimes I feel like
it was, it was my fault.

333
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You know, sometimes I feel like, you know,

334
00:12:55,067 --> 00:12:56,235
was it me who caused it?

335
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Was it me who-who did it?

336
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♪

337
00:13:00,864 --> 00:13:03,867
- Aaron's mom was managing his career,
which is very common,

338
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a lot of child stars, their-their moms
end up taking over their accounts.

339
00:13:07,663 --> 00:13:09,331
- This is from Aaron's winter party.

340
00:13:09,331 --> 00:13:11,333
I just loved that coat we had made.

341
00:13:11,333 --> 00:13:13,585
I had designed that coat for him.

342
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PHIL:
Jane Carter was more the business person

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that I dealt with on a day-to-day basis.

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I'm dealing with all things publicity.

345
00:13:20,551 --> 00:13:23,178
- Crush On You.
That was his very first single,

346
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and that went gold in Germany, too.

347
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SCAACHI:
Over the course of their relationship,

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Aaron accused his mom countless times

349
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of not really being a mother,

350
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but being a manager first.

351
00:13:35,774 --> 00:13:39,319
- It was never about
a mother-son relationship.

352
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It was always about work.

353
00:13:40,362 --> 00:13:42,114
Sometimes I would just stop
and I would be like,

354
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"Mom, why can't we just
fight about, you know,

355
00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:47,452
"me being a teenager
and me growing up or, you know,

356
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why can't we fight about
those kinda things?"

357
00:13:49,037 --> 00:13:50,497
♪

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JOHN STOSSEL:
The famous brothers
are Nick and Aaron Carter.

359
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They're huge pop stars and very rich now.

360
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It's interesting that it was

361
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when the money started rolling in
that the trouble began.

362
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SCAACHI: Within a couple of years
of her managing him,

363
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he accuses her
of basically taking his money.

364
00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,725
♪

365
00:14:09,725 --> 00:14:13,145
- When we were on tour, every show we did,

366
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we would probably make about,

367
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I mean, like maybe
$40,000, $50,000 a show.

368
00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:20,611
And it was all gone.

369
00:14:20,611 --> 00:14:22,654
- Do you think your mother
stole money from you?

370
00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:24,364
- I think she did.

371
00:14:24,823 --> 00:14:27,618
I don't know if it was intentional
or unintentional, unintentional,

372
00:14:27,618 --> 00:14:31,038
but, I mean, I know that it was gone.

373
00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:34,208
- After all these years
of being Aaron's publicist,

374
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suddenly they were
two or three months behind.

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00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:40,047
You know, I-I reached out
and that's when I kinda found out

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00:14:40,047 --> 00:14:42,341
that there was no more money.

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00:14:42,341 --> 00:14:47,137
♪

378
00:14:52,059 --> 00:14:53,810
♪

379
00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:56,480
- My experience as a former child actor

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very much informs my experience

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as an entertainment lawyer now.

382
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,361
OPERATOR: Marker.
PRODUCER: Thank you.

383
00:15:02,903 --> 00:15:04,238
- Alright.

384
00:15:04,238 --> 00:15:07,074
I played the role of Chunk
in the film The Goonies.

385
00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:09,034
- First you gotta do the truffle shuffle.

386
00:15:09,535 --> 00:15:10,869
- Come on.

387
00:15:11,328 --> 00:15:14,289
[yells unintelligibly]
[laughter]

388
00:15:14,289 --> 00:15:17,417
I weigh the same, uh,
but I was shorter and I had more hair.

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00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:18,961
I had a lot more hair, uh, back then.

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00:15:18,961 --> 00:15:20,838
♪

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00:15:20,838 --> 00:15:22,840
Show business is a beast.

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00:15:23,507 --> 00:15:27,177
And I learned how it can go right
and how it can go wrong.

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00:15:27,177 --> 00:15:28,720
And you need someone in your corner,

394
00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,849
you need someone
who has your best interest at heart.

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♪

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PHIL:
The Jackie Coogan Laws

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dictate that parents set aside

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00:15:36,311 --> 00:15:38,981
for their minor's income
in a, in a trust fund.

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♪

400
00:15:40,983 --> 00:15:45,904
JEFF: Jackie Coogan
was the first great child movie star.

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00:15:46,405 --> 00:15:48,240
And in the '20s and '30s,

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00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,701
he amassed earnings
of four million dollars.

403
00:15:50,701 --> 00:15:54,121
As an adult, he asked
his mother and stepfather for his money.

404
00:15:54,913 --> 00:15:56,540
And they said, it's gone.

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00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:57,875
[inaudible]

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00:15:57,875 --> 00:16:02,296
In California, the state legislature
in 1939 passed the law

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00:16:02,296 --> 00:16:04,631
that eventually became known
as the Coogan Act.

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00:16:04,631 --> 00:16:06,925
The law was amended in 1999.

409
00:16:06,925 --> 00:16:09,094
The law was amended in 2003.

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00:16:10,053 --> 00:16:11,388
Its heart is in the right place,

411
00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:13,765
but there are a number of deficiencies.

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00:16:14,308 --> 00:16:15,893
It's not nationwide.

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00:16:15,893 --> 00:16:20,189
You're only required to put
15% of the child's earnings in trust,

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00:16:20,189 --> 00:16:23,192
so that means 85% is fair game.

415
00:16:23,192 --> 00:16:25,694
Additionally, if the law is breached,

416
00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:27,362
you have to sue your parents.

417
00:16:28,322 --> 00:16:29,615
Who wants to sue their parents?

418
00:16:29,615 --> 00:16:32,576
♪

419
00:16:32,576 --> 00:16:34,411
AJ:
Let's just call a spade a spade.

420
00:16:34,411 --> 00:16:37,164
The entertainment business
is definitely not normal.

421
00:16:37,164 --> 00:16:39,416
It's a shit show, man. It is.

422
00:16:39,416 --> 00:16:40,959
It'll swallow you up.

423
00:16:41,376 --> 00:16:44,254
♪

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00:16:44,254 --> 00:16:46,757
JANE CARTER:
The drugs, the drinking,

425
00:16:46,757 --> 00:16:48,467
the people that want a piece of you.

426
00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:51,386
A normal family
doesn't have all those pressures.

427
00:16:51,386 --> 00:16:52,763
[crowd yells]
[man whistles]

428
00:16:52,763 --> 00:16:55,140
- 15, 16 years old, of course
I experimented with things,

429
00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:57,351
but I realized it was a mistake.

430
00:16:57,351 --> 00:16:59,561
- You were quoted as saying
you were worried

431
00:16:59,561 --> 00:17:01,063
you were gonna wake up one morning

432
00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:03,148
and hear that he had died
of a drug overdose.

433
00:17:03,148 --> 00:17:05,442
- I did. I did worry about that.

434
00:17:05,442 --> 00:17:07,402
♪

435
00:17:07,402 --> 00:17:10,739
AJ: I don't know
when the downward spiral started.

436
00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:14,576
Nobody really knows, except Aaron,

437
00:17:14,576 --> 00:17:17,454
but I don't think anybody
really was aware of the signs

438
00:17:17,454 --> 00:17:20,249
early on to maybe
try to nip it in the bud.

439
00:17:20,249 --> 00:17:23,669
♪

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00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:28,006
SCAACHI:
There is a real appetite for the come up

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00:17:28,006 --> 00:17:29,758
and the fall down of a child star.

442
00:17:29,758 --> 00:17:31,885
♪

443
00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:35,013
People started to enjoy watching him fail.

444
00:17:35,013 --> 00:17:36,849
♪

445
00:17:36,849 --> 00:17:38,517
- There was a major fall-off for the acts

446
00:17:38,517 --> 00:17:42,396
that were still trying to make
that same bubblegum pop sound

447
00:17:42,396 --> 00:17:44,273
of the late '90s, early 2000s,

448
00:17:44,273 --> 00:17:47,276
and Aaron was
one of the-the victims of that.

449
00:17:48,652 --> 00:17:50,904
AJ: Others may think differently,
but how I perceived it

450
00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:53,198
is that he was always
trying to play catch-up,

451
00:17:53,198 --> 00:17:54,575
and then started probably to feel

452
00:17:54,575 --> 00:17:56,326
like he was living
in his brother's shadow.

453
00:17:57,077 --> 00:17:58,912
- Nick and Aaron were really competitive.

454
00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:00,497
You saw it a lot on House of Carters.

455
00:18:01,456 --> 00:18:02,666
- Come on in.

456
00:18:03,667 --> 00:18:05,502
- Pickle!

457
00:18:05,502 --> 00:18:07,296
SCAACHI:
House of Carters premiered in 2006.

458
00:18:07,296 --> 00:18:09,256
ANGEL:
Where's the bathroom? Gotta go pee.

459
00:18:09,256 --> 00:18:11,049
BRITTANY:
Aaron's career had fallen off.

460
00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:14,219
This was their way
of recapturing the public interest.

461
00:18:14,219 --> 00:18:16,722
- I got a pool and a balcony to jump from.

462
00:18:17,222 --> 00:18:18,724
NICK:
No, Aaron, don't, please.

463
00:18:18,724 --> 00:18:21,518
AJ: I thought it was a bad idea
for them to do the show.

464
00:18:21,518 --> 00:18:25,063
It did not help Aaron's cause.

465
00:18:25,063 --> 00:18:27,482
- I was with Mom and I didn't even
get a chance to cry

466
00:18:27,482 --> 00:18:28,817
about Mom and Dad's divorce.

467
00:18:28,817 --> 00:18:30,694
- It's really not even an issue.

468
00:18:30,694 --> 00:18:31,528
- Yes, it is an issue.

469
00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:33,572
SCAACHI: House of Carters
seem to be telling us the truth.

470
00:18:33,572 --> 00:18:35,115
NICK:
Anybody that wants to know the truth.

471
00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:37,159
You wanna know
why I don’t trust my brother?

472
00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,702
Why he doesn't respect me?

473
00:18:39,161 --> 00:18:40,245
BRITTANY:
And I don't even think that the show

474
00:18:40,245 --> 00:18:41,872
understood it was doing that.

475
00:18:41,872 --> 00:18:44,333
- I think around then is really when

476
00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:46,210
the friction really started to happen.

477
00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:48,086
- Alright? Alright?
- Don't spit on my face.

478
00:18:48,086 --> 00:18:49,254
- You gonna respect me.
- Don't spit in my face.

479
00:18:49,254 --> 00:18:50,088
- You're gonna respect me.

480
00:18:50,088 --> 00:18:51,465
- Stop it.
- What are you doing?

481
00:18:51,465 --> 00:18:52,382
NICK:
You’re gonna respect my house.

482
00:18:52,382 --> 00:18:53,634
AARON:
Get out of my room.

483
00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:54,968
What are you doing?

484
00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:56,470
NICK:
Now I'm gonna tell you [bleep]--

485
00:18:57,387 --> 00:18:59,723
AJ: What started out as a,
"I really admire my big brother..."

486
00:19:00,224 --> 00:19:01,725
NICK:
Let's go, baby, let's go.

487
00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:04,603
AJ:
..."I wanna be like my big brother."

488
00:19:05,395 --> 00:19:08,774
But then when you
don't become your big brother,

489
00:19:10,692 --> 00:19:11,818
how do you handle that?

490
00:19:11,818 --> 00:19:13,487
♪

491
00:19:18,408 --> 00:19:21,328
Aaron was the definition of bubblegum pop.

492
00:19:22,621 --> 00:19:26,124
Maybe he thought,
"Okay, I had this success.

493
00:19:26,124 --> 00:19:27,793
It's gonna stay like this."

494
00:19:28,418 --> 00:19:30,462
It doesn't just stay,
you gotta keep working at it.

495
00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:33,549
You gotta keep reinventing yourself.

496
00:19:33,549 --> 00:19:35,092
You have to keep growing.

497
00:19:35,092 --> 00:19:40,681
♪

498
00:19:40,681 --> 00:19:42,599
- This season's comeback kid,

499
00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:44,226
pop star Aaron Carter...

500
00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:46,436
SCAACHI:
By 2009, Aaron starts doing

501
00:19:46,436 --> 00:19:48,230
what I think a lot of celebrities that go

502
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:51,108
from A-list to C, D-list start doing.

503
00:19:51,859 --> 00:19:53,485
- ♪ Riding high ♪

504
00:19:53,485 --> 00:19:55,070
BRITTANY: To go on
Dancing With the Stars was a huge move

505
00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:56,738
for a lot of artists

506
00:19:56,738 --> 00:19:58,699
who were reviving their career
in some capacity.

507
00:19:59,157 --> 00:20:02,661
AARON: Being able to climb
back up the ladder is so rewarding

508
00:20:02,661 --> 00:20:05,747
because you gotta work for it
and... I'm working for it.

509
00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:09,751
- I think Aaron maybe expected,

510
00:20:09,751 --> 00:20:12,379
okay, if I go on
a national television show

511
00:20:12,838 --> 00:20:15,174
and remind people, "Hey, I'm here,"

512
00:20:15,174 --> 00:20:17,301
offers are gonna start piling up.

513
00:20:17,301 --> 00:20:20,554
- But it just didn't really pay off
the way that he had hoped.

514
00:20:21,597 --> 00:20:24,600
- He starts engaging
in pop culture in different avenues.

515
00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,562
Like a super-long run
with the Fantasticks off-Broadway.

516
00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:31,440
He was really trying
to find his footing again.

517
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,608
There's a version of the world

518
00:20:32,608 --> 00:20:35,444
where Aaron Carter hosts
like Access Hollywood,

519
00:20:35,444 --> 00:20:37,905
that could have happened, um.

520
00:20:38,989 --> 00:20:40,324
But I don't know, it didn't take.

521
00:20:40,324 --> 00:20:42,326
♪

522
00:20:42,326 --> 00:20:44,953
BRITTANY:
There wasn't a million offers after that.

523
00:20:44,953 --> 00:20:47,539
He wasn't getting
people lining up to wanna work with him.

524
00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:49,625
♪

525
00:20:49,625 --> 00:20:51,293
AJ:
Now that's messing with his ego.

526
00:20:51,293 --> 00:20:53,795
Now that's messing with his pride.

527
00:20:53,795 --> 00:20:55,714
You're gonna then go back inward

528
00:20:56,465 --> 00:20:59,551
and the demons are gonna take over again.

529
00:20:59,551 --> 00:21:02,804
♪

530
00:21:03,347 --> 00:21:06,016
TAYLOR: Aaron hadn't released music
in quite some time

531
00:21:06,016 --> 00:21:07,601
and he didn't know what his sound was.

532
00:21:07,601 --> 00:21:09,436
It was his chance to prove himself.

533
00:21:10,521 --> 00:21:14,733
The beginning of 2015,
I'd been out here about five years,

534
00:21:14,733 --> 00:21:16,652
your typical struggling artist situation.

535
00:21:17,486 --> 00:21:20,030
I ended up getting a couch
in a buddy's house

536
00:21:20,030 --> 00:21:23,325
and he was ranting about
how he was friends with Aaron Carter.

537
00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:25,160
Big flex, you know, Aaron Carter, like,

538
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,246
hey, I think I've heard of him, you know.

539
00:21:28,038 --> 00:21:31,917
And the very next morning,
it's like 7:00 in the morning.

540
00:21:31,917 --> 00:21:34,294
I woke up to somebody knocking on the door

541
00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:36,630
and I'm looking at Aaron Carter.

542
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:39,967
And he looks at me and he says,
"Hey, you write music, right?"

543
00:21:39,967 --> 00:21:41,468
I'm like, "Yeah."

544
00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:43,136
And he's like, "Come in my car.

545
00:21:43,136 --> 00:21:44,346
I got some beats I wanna play you."

546
00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:45,222
Like, just like that.

547
00:21:45,222 --> 00:21:48,308
And I'm like, "Uh, okay, let me
put some clothes on real quick."

548
00:21:48,308 --> 00:21:51,061
♪

549
00:21:51,061 --> 00:21:53,272
We went, we sat in his car
for, like, four hours.

550
00:21:54,231 --> 00:21:57,818
In that session, we wrote
the first song on the Love album.

551
00:21:57,818 --> 00:21:59,194
♪

552
00:21:59,194 --> 00:22:02,698
Mid-2015 is when
we really started going deep.

553
00:22:02,698 --> 00:22:05,826
♪ plays notes on piano ♪
[indistinct singing]

554
00:22:05,826 --> 00:22:08,453
Working with Aaron on a project was...

555
00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:10,664
[laughter]

556
00:22:10,664 --> 00:22:15,127
...one of the most special experiences

557
00:22:15,127 --> 00:22:17,045
uh, of my life to date.

558
00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:19,548
Incredibly exhausting,

559
00:22:19,548 --> 00:22:22,634
this guy, all he wanted to do was work.

560
00:22:22,634 --> 00:22:26,847
♪ bright piano music playing ♪

561
00:22:26,847 --> 00:22:28,682
AJ:
He was a super, super talented kid,

562
00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:31,185
and all the instruments
that he played, self-taught.

563
00:22:31,185 --> 00:22:34,104
♪ upbeat electronic music playing ♪

564
00:22:34,104 --> 00:22:36,190
♪

565
00:22:36,190 --> 00:22:37,357
That's a gift.

566
00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:38,901
That is a huge gift.

567
00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:42,613
TAYLOR:
We'd stay, you know, for a month straight

568
00:22:42,613 --> 00:22:44,615
from sun-up to sundown in his house,

569
00:22:44,615 --> 00:22:47,701
just recording, recording,
writing, recording, writing, recording.

570
00:22:47,701 --> 00:22:48,869
♪

571
00:22:48,869 --> 00:22:51,538
He was very meticulous about making sure

572
00:22:51,538 --> 00:22:56,543
that every song was exactly
the way that he wanted it to be.

573
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:59,588
It was absolutely relentless,

574
00:22:59,588 --> 00:23:02,049
but we were able to find
a new sound for Aaron.

575
00:23:02,049 --> 00:23:06,637
♪

576
00:23:06,637 --> 00:23:10,724
Sooner Or Later was the single
off the album Love that we released.

577
00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:13,477
- ♪ Sooner or later
she'll be walking away ♪

578
00:23:13,477 --> 00:23:15,229
♪ I got something to say to her ♪

579
00:23:15,229 --> 00:23:17,189
TAYLOR: And it was
very much Aaron's sound, you know.

580
00:23:17,189 --> 00:23:21,902
The difference between Aaron's early work
and the Love album,

581
00:23:21,902 --> 00:23:23,695
those records weren't Aaron's records.

582
00:23:23,695 --> 00:23:25,280
A five-year-old kid
doesn't know who they are.

583
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,573
[indistinct chatter]

584
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,408
Especially when they're
being directed by a team

585
00:23:28,408 --> 00:23:30,035
of God knows how many people telling him,

586
00:23:30,035 --> 00:23:31,495
do this, do this, do this every day.

587
00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:33,580
REPORTER:
Aaron, point at me, right here.

588
00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,500
- He wasn't old enough
to make that choice for himself.

589
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,377
You know, Aaron had a lot of resentment
about growing up like that.

590
00:23:39,002 --> 00:23:41,255
- ♪ I don't need this pressure ♪

591
00:23:41,255 --> 00:23:43,090
♪ You're my greatest stressor ♪

592
00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:44,508
♪ Panties on my bed ♪

593
00:23:44,508 --> 00:23:45,717
TAYLOR:
The Love album was his.

594
00:23:45,717 --> 00:23:48,011
He chose to make it
and he made it his way.

595
00:23:48,011 --> 00:23:48,929
♪ Fool's Gold by Aaron Carter playing ♪

596
00:23:48,929 --> 00:23:51,056
And that was him taking his power back.

597
00:23:51,056 --> 00:23:52,432
- This is my best friend.

598
00:23:52,432 --> 00:23:56,144
He co-wrote every single song
on the Love album.

599
00:23:56,144 --> 00:23:59,523
♪ upbeat electronic music playing ♪

600
00:23:59,523 --> 00:24:02,860
♪

601
00:24:02,860 --> 00:24:04,570
BRITTANY:
It's a pretty good album, you know.

602
00:24:04,570 --> 00:24:06,029
It's a very grown album from him...

603
00:24:06,029 --> 00:24:07,447
♪

604
00:24:07,447 --> 00:24:09,825
...but unfortunately it doesn't recapture

605
00:24:09,825 --> 00:24:12,703
the type of kind of power
that he had as a child.

606
00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:15,038
At this point in his life,

607
00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:17,624
he's back in the press
and public consciousness

608
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,084
for really all the wrong reasons.

609
00:24:19,084 --> 00:24:23,422
You know, he's beginning to act
pretty radically on social media.

610
00:24:23,422 --> 00:24:25,299
He gets a DUI.

611
00:24:26,383 --> 00:24:30,179
NEWSCASTER:
From promising child star to this mugshot.

612
00:24:30,179 --> 00:24:32,222
INTERVIEWER:
You know, when people see this mugshot,

613
00:24:32,222 --> 00:24:35,058
they think, you know,
this is a picture of-of a drug addict.

614
00:24:35,058 --> 00:24:36,560
Are you a drug addict?

615
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,519
- No.

616
00:24:38,896 --> 00:24:40,189
♪

617
00:24:40,189 --> 00:24:42,149
SCAACHI:
He appears really, really emaciated.

618
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:43,984
He does not look well.

619
00:24:43,984 --> 00:24:45,611
He's really thin, he's really gaunt.

620
00:24:45,611 --> 00:24:47,404
He has no color in his face.

621
00:24:47,404 --> 00:24:49,531
He had shaved the side of his head

622
00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:52,993
so he looked kind of alien-esque.

623
00:24:54,286 --> 00:24:57,039
His tattoos were on his neck
like snaking down his arms.

624
00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,374
There was a clear shift
in his physicality.

625
00:24:59,374 --> 00:25:01,752
♪

626
00:25:01,752 --> 00:25:03,962
He was coming from a place of agony.

627
00:25:03,962 --> 00:25:07,591
Just, he was like
a raw open wound all the time.

628
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:11,720
And it is not fun to engage in pop culture

629
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,224
made by a weeping sore.

630
00:25:15,224 --> 00:25:17,809
♪

631
00:25:17,809 --> 00:25:20,145
I think this sort of
marks the beginning of Aaron

632
00:25:20,145 --> 00:25:25,442
going back to the well of trauma
in order to have a career,

633
00:25:25,442 --> 00:25:27,027
'cause you see him doing it
again and again.

634
00:25:27,736 --> 00:25:30,864
And in 2017, Aaron appears on The Doctors.

635
00:25:31,532 --> 00:25:33,909
- I need help. I'm scared.

636
00:25:34,826 --> 00:25:36,370
DR. STORK:
So I was never Aaron's doctor.

637
00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:37,412
To be honest with you,

638
00:25:37,412 --> 00:25:39,206
I looked at Aaron
more like a little brother.

639
00:25:40,165 --> 00:25:44,044
Because Aaron not only had issues
with substance abuse,

640
00:25:44,044 --> 00:25:47,005
he obviously had a lot of familial issues

641
00:25:47,005 --> 00:25:48,674
and then on top of it, you know,

642
00:25:48,674 --> 00:25:52,427
he was dealing with
some true, uh, mental health issues.

643
00:25:53,178 --> 00:25:56,098
It was pretty clear
he needed some help ASAP.

644
00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:57,891
- There's things going on with me.

645
00:25:57,891 --> 00:25:59,309
There's rumors.

646
00:25:59,309 --> 00:26:01,311
There's people that are body-shaming me.

647
00:26:01,854 --> 00:26:04,398
DR. STORK: When Aaron was really
going through the toughest times,

648
00:26:04,398 --> 00:26:07,192
it was also when he's interacting with,

649
00:26:07,192 --> 00:26:09,361
we call them internet trolls, right,

650
00:26:09,361 --> 00:26:10,612
and he couldn't stop.

651
00:26:11,572 --> 00:26:13,407
TAYLOR:
I think one of the downfalls for Aaron

652
00:26:13,407 --> 00:26:15,325
was that he fed into it a lot.

653
00:26:15,325 --> 00:26:17,160
He really cared about
what people thought about him

654
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,745
and I think you could argue he was raised

655
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:21,248
to care very much
about what people thought about him.

656
00:26:22,541 --> 00:26:26,044
He would engage with these people

657
00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:29,047
and engaging with them
only makes it worse.

658
00:26:29,047 --> 00:26:30,883
- It's almost like he had an addiction

659
00:26:31,675 --> 00:26:37,264
not only to substances,
um, but to his fame as well.

660
00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:39,766
Not an addiction to, oh, I must be famous,

661
00:26:39,766 --> 00:26:43,478
but an addiction to,
I must please my fans.

662
00:26:43,478 --> 00:26:44,563
- Love you.

663
00:26:44,563 --> 00:26:48,817
- I must make sure that they understand,

664
00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:52,321
um, when I'm not sure anyone could
ever understand Aaron except himself.

665
00:26:52,321 --> 00:26:56,533
Aaron very openly submitted to a drug test

666
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:58,327
because he wanted
to set the record straight.

667
00:26:58,327 --> 00:27:01,371
Cocaine was negative, meth was negative,

668
00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:06,043
marijuana was positive, benzodiazepines,
Xanax for instance, positive.

669
00:27:06,043 --> 00:27:08,754
It was also positive
for opiates, hydrocodone.

670
00:27:08,754 --> 00:27:11,256
What scares me about that drug panel...
AARON: Yeah.

671
00:27:11,256 --> 00:27:13,800
- ...is your sister
perished from an overdose.

672
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,676
- Yeah.

673
00:27:15,969 --> 00:27:18,388
♪

674
00:27:18,388 --> 00:27:21,183
SCAACHI:
I remember Leslie a lot.

675
00:27:21,183 --> 00:27:22,601
A lot.

676
00:27:24,019 --> 00:27:26,855
BRITTANY: Leslie's the middle child
in the Carter family

677
00:27:26,855 --> 00:27:29,858
and she had a really long struggle
with addiction

678
00:27:29,858 --> 00:27:32,402
and she passed away
from an overdose at the age of 25.

679
00:27:32,402 --> 00:27:35,447
♪

680
00:27:35,447 --> 00:27:37,991
DR. STORK: What's your greatest fear?
AARON: My greatest fear?

681
00:27:39,243 --> 00:27:41,203
I don't even know
how to answer that question.

682
00:27:43,121 --> 00:27:46,458
Not being able to live...
as long as I can.

683
00:27:47,501 --> 00:27:50,754
♪

684
00:27:50,754 --> 00:27:52,923
AJ:
I was a functioning addict.

685
00:27:52,923 --> 00:27:56,093
I've been in and out
of the rooms since 2001.

686
00:27:56,093 --> 00:27:57,678
So for 22 years,

687
00:27:59,054 --> 00:28:01,098
I've been battling my own shit.

688
00:28:01,098 --> 00:28:04,726
I almost lost my marriage.
I almost lost my band.

689
00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:06,061
Um...

690
00:28:06,061 --> 00:28:07,521
I almost lost my life.

691
00:28:08,438 --> 00:28:10,649
The last time I relapsed,

692
00:28:10,649 --> 00:28:12,943
um, which would be 18 months ago,

693
00:28:13,944 --> 00:28:17,781
you know, my youngest daughter
was kind of the

694
00:28:19,366 --> 00:28:20,909
nail in the coffin for me.

695
00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:22,661
♪

696
00:28:22,661 --> 00:28:24,872
She said I didn't smell like her dad.

697
00:28:26,623 --> 00:28:28,000
That was enough.

698
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,170
That... that pretty much did it in for me.

699
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:34,131
And I have stayed sober since,

700
00:28:34,131 --> 00:28:37,593
and I plan on staying sober,
and it's a daily thing.

701
00:28:37,593 --> 00:28:40,637
♪

702
00:28:40,637 --> 00:28:43,724
2017, Aaron had reached out to me,

703
00:28:44,683 --> 00:28:46,977
asked me for help, and I said,

704
00:28:46,977 --> 00:28:51,064
"Look, if you get on a plane
and you come out to LA,

705
00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:53,483
I will make sure you get into treatment."

706
00:28:53,942 --> 00:28:56,528
And he showed up.

707
00:28:56,528 --> 00:28:58,739
I was shocked, but I was happy.

708
00:28:59,698 --> 00:29:03,619
And he checked in
to a treatment center in Malibu.

709
00:29:03,619 --> 00:29:05,662
♪

710
00:29:05,662 --> 00:29:07,164
A couple days later I talked to him,

711
00:29:08,081 --> 00:29:10,876
and then he kind of went off the map

712
00:29:10,876 --> 00:29:13,879
and I think it was maybe two weeks.

713
00:29:13,879 --> 00:29:15,506
So I called my friends
at the treatment center

714
00:29:15,506 --> 00:29:17,633
and they said he checked himself out.

715
00:29:17,633 --> 00:29:20,427
♪

716
00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:23,013
- I have a truth
that I'm going to reveal right now.

717
00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:26,683
- When Aaron came back on in 2019,

718
00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:28,185
maybe he wasn't as good

719
00:29:29,770 --> 00:29:32,689
as at first glance
he might have appeared to have been.

720
00:29:33,273 --> 00:29:35,901
- The reason why I went
to rehab is for huffing.

721
00:29:36,527 --> 00:29:38,612
- That's basically
breathing in compressed air

722
00:29:38,612 --> 00:29:39,738
and it could be anything.

723
00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:42,741
It provides this euphoria

724
00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,827
and it doesn't show up on a drug screen,

725
00:29:45,827 --> 00:29:48,664
so it's probably more common
than people realize.

726
00:29:48,664 --> 00:29:52,084
But it can cause sudden, sudden death,

727
00:29:52,084 --> 00:29:53,418
uh, it can affect your heart,

728
00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:54,837
it can obviously affect your brain.

729
00:29:54,837 --> 00:29:56,880
♪

730
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,216
In my time talking to Aaron,
it was never, you know,

731
00:29:59,216 --> 00:30:02,886
"My best friend or my siblings."

732
00:30:03,595 --> 00:30:05,305
He didn't have anyone.

733
00:30:06,014 --> 00:30:07,432
I met his mom.

734
00:30:08,433 --> 00:30:12,813
It's not as though this was some really

735
00:30:14,231 --> 00:30:15,858
comfortable relationship

736
00:30:15,858 --> 00:30:18,277
where they're
leaning on each other to-to get better.

737
00:30:18,277 --> 00:30:21,905
It was more so just
equally self-destructive.

738
00:30:21,905 --> 00:30:24,783
Please welcome Aaron's mom,
Jane, to the show.

739
00:30:24,783 --> 00:30:26,368
SCAACHI: On the 2019
appearance of The Doctors,

740
00:30:26,368 --> 00:30:27,953
he brought his mother.

741
00:30:27,953 --> 00:30:29,246
- I get up in the morning...

742
00:30:29,246 --> 00:30:31,123
- Tell 'em the truth.
- ...four, five o'clock.

743
00:30:31,123 --> 00:30:35,502
And, uh, first thing I want to do is,
is have a drink.

744
00:30:35,502 --> 00:30:38,172
- They have such a strange
back-and-forth dynamic

745
00:30:38,172 --> 00:30:40,174
where he needed her so desperately

746
00:30:40,174 --> 00:30:42,426
and he was constantly making room for her

747
00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:43,760
in whatever way he could.

748
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,222
- Normally when a child has an addiction,

749
00:30:47,222 --> 00:30:50,017
they can lean on their mother for help.

750
00:30:51,268 --> 00:30:53,395
But what do you do

751
00:30:54,146 --> 00:30:57,858
when they're both struggling?

752
00:30:57,858 --> 00:31:00,944
♪

753
00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:05,949
It's not like he had one person
that he really counted on.

754
00:31:05,949 --> 00:31:09,453
It was Aaron... and the world.

755
00:31:11,455 --> 00:31:13,790
[birds chirping]

756
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:20,214
♪

757
00:31:25,761 --> 00:31:29,014
MELANIE:
I saw something cute on social media

758
00:31:29,014 --> 00:31:31,225
where Aaron did a tour of his house

759
00:31:32,226 --> 00:31:34,019
and he was showing his dogs
and he was, like,

760
00:31:34,019 --> 00:31:35,562
showing his barbecue and he was like,

761
00:31:35,562 --> 00:31:38,106
"I need a woman that can cook with me

762
00:31:38,106 --> 00:31:39,775
and have a family with."

763
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,237
So I just sent him a message and I said,

764
00:31:43,237 --> 00:31:45,906
"Your pug is so cute,
I wish I could cuddle with you guys."

765
00:31:46,448 --> 00:31:48,242
And then he was like, "Well, you can."

766
00:31:48,242 --> 00:31:49,493
And I'm like, "Okay."

767
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,370
♪

768
00:31:51,370 --> 00:31:52,788
It was so cute and so innocent.

769
00:31:52,788 --> 00:31:55,582
He was so innocent and so down-to-earth.

770
00:31:56,083 --> 00:31:57,835
[indistinct chatter]
OPERATOR: Marker.

771
00:31:58,418 --> 00:32:00,462
MELANIE:
My name is Melanie Martin

772
00:32:00,462 --> 00:32:02,381
and I was engaged to Aaron Carter.

773
00:32:02,381 --> 00:32:04,925
♪

774
00:32:04,925 --> 00:32:06,635
I wasn't a boy band fan,

775
00:32:06,635 --> 00:32:08,887
but I did think he was very attractive.

776
00:32:09,888 --> 00:32:12,140
It wasn't like I was
following him for a long time.

777
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,685
I just followed him that day
and then messaged him

778
00:32:14,685 --> 00:32:16,186
and then it was like right away.

779
00:32:17,396 --> 00:32:19,523
I didn't think he was
gonna respond, and he did.

780
00:32:20,148 --> 00:32:21,984
And then, you know, we hit it off,

781
00:32:21,984 --> 00:32:23,527
and I stayed at his place.

782
00:32:34,663 --> 00:32:36,707
- And then I went back
to my place and he said,

783
00:32:36,707 --> 00:32:38,792
"I miss you already,
come back and move in with me."

784
00:32:40,169 --> 00:32:41,503
- Say hello, my love.

785
00:32:41,503 --> 00:32:43,172
- Hi. [chuckles]

786
00:32:44,214 --> 00:32:46,216
I mean, he was posting me on his page.

787
00:32:46,216 --> 00:32:47,926
AARON: Say hello.
- Hey, guys. [chuckles]

788
00:32:47,926 --> 00:32:50,512
Saying this is my new wife right away.

789
00:32:50,512 --> 00:32:52,556
You guys, what should
our couple's name be?

790
00:32:52,556 --> 00:32:53,432
- Maron.

791
00:32:53,432 --> 00:32:56,143
- And he was like, "I wanna have
kids with her and marry her"

792
00:32:56,143 --> 00:32:58,228
and all this stuff.
[laughs]

793
00:32:58,228 --> 00:32:59,605
- Alright, guys, shh. Guess what?

794
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:03,233
I have a question for you.
MELANIE: Oh, my gosh.

795
00:33:03,233 --> 00:33:05,110
- Alright, stop, stop.
MELANIE: Baby.

796
00:33:05,777 --> 00:33:07,029
Hi, guys.

797
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:08,113
Ahh!

798
00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:09,114
♪

799
00:33:09,114 --> 00:33:10,616
[inaudible]

800
00:33:10,616 --> 00:33:12,451
♪

801
00:33:12,451 --> 00:33:13,869
AARON: Hi.
MELANIE: Ooh, hi.

802
00:33:13,869 --> 00:33:15,078
[kisses]

803
00:33:15,078 --> 00:33:15,913
Whoo!

804
00:33:15,913 --> 00:33:19,041
♪

805
00:33:19,041 --> 00:33:22,169
- Melanie Martin and Aaron
began dating around 2020.

806
00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:23,921
♪

807
00:33:23,921 --> 00:33:27,007
There were a lot of ups and downs,
a lot of breakups and makeups.

808
00:33:27,466 --> 00:33:30,719
- Aaron and Melanie's relationship
was not a healthy dynamic.

809
00:33:31,595 --> 00:33:33,305
He goes on YouTube and he says

810
00:33:33,305 --> 00:33:35,807
that she has physically assaulted him.

811
00:33:36,808 --> 00:33:39,269
- He would call
the police department and then--

812
00:33:40,812 --> 00:33:42,523
It doesn't make sense to me.

813
00:33:43,023 --> 00:33:45,150
He's back with me a week later. [scoffs]

814
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,738
- She has also alleged
that he was abusing her.

815
00:33:49,738 --> 00:33:51,949
♪

816
00:33:51,949 --> 00:33:53,534
MELANIE:
It was always up and down.

817
00:33:53,534 --> 00:33:56,453
♪

818
00:33:56,453 --> 00:33:57,538
I couldn't live without him

819
00:33:57,538 --> 00:33:59,289
and he said,
"I couldn't live without you," you know.

820
00:33:59,289 --> 00:34:01,124
♪

821
00:34:01,124 --> 00:34:05,128
- And again, everything with Aaron
goes back to-to tragedy.

822
00:34:06,505 --> 00:34:08,298
It's a tragic relationship.

823
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,135
And I don't think
that he had any framework

824
00:34:12,135 --> 00:34:13,262
to have a healthy one.

825
00:34:13,262 --> 00:34:15,973
♪

826
00:34:15,973 --> 00:34:17,975
I think at some point, Aaron had accused

827
00:34:17,975 --> 00:34:20,936
almost everybody in his family of abuse,

828
00:34:20,936 --> 00:34:22,813
but there's also lots of allegations
of abuse against Aaron.

829
00:34:23,981 --> 00:34:26,608
Nick and Angel both ended up filing

830
00:34:26,608 --> 00:34:28,610
a restraining order against Aaron.

831
00:34:28,610 --> 00:34:30,571
♪

832
00:34:31,029 --> 00:34:34,992
- Once the addiction took over
that was running the show,

833
00:34:34,992 --> 00:34:38,120
was telling Aaron what to say,
what to think, what to do,

834
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,289
how to act, how to be.

835
00:34:40,289 --> 00:34:42,082
Instead of being a little angry,

836
00:34:42,082 --> 00:34:44,209
you're gonna go full-on postal.

837
00:34:44,209 --> 00:34:45,919
Instead of being a little emotional,

838
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:48,088
you're gonna be a babbling brook.

839
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:51,633
- They made that tough choice
to walk away,

840
00:34:51,633 --> 00:34:52,676
you know, for the benefit of him.

841
00:34:54,136 --> 00:34:56,180
To show him that you can't have both.

842
00:34:56,638 --> 00:34:59,641
You can't have
a fulfilling, loving family life

843
00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:01,310
and be in your addiction.

844
00:35:01,310 --> 00:35:02,311
They made that choice.

845
00:35:02,311 --> 00:35:03,937
That's one of the hardest choices
you can make.

846
00:35:05,105 --> 00:35:06,940
♪

847
00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:09,776
When he had Prince,
something really changed with him.

848
00:35:09,776 --> 00:35:12,571
MELANIE:
Look how cute my little babies are.

849
00:35:13,822 --> 00:35:15,407
You guys are little twinsies.

850
00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:18,577
- Wanna say hi, little one?

851
00:35:20,245 --> 00:35:21,955
Say hi, little Prince.

852
00:35:21,955 --> 00:35:23,457
[Melanie chuckles]

853
00:35:23,457 --> 00:35:24,833
Are you hungry again?

854
00:35:25,459 --> 00:35:26,627
You're hungry?

855
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,003
Oh, is he hungry?

856
00:35:28,962 --> 00:35:31,673
TAYLOR: Aaron, his whole life,
wanted a family of his own

857
00:35:31,673 --> 00:35:34,051
and I think that stems
from just a tumultuous childhood.

858
00:35:34,051 --> 00:35:37,554
AARON:
Is that my baby boy? Uh-huh?

859
00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:40,557
Are you looking at the cam? Hi.

860
00:35:40,557 --> 00:35:41,725
Look at Daddy.

861
00:35:42,267 --> 00:35:43,602
Look at Daddy.

862
00:35:43,602 --> 00:35:45,604
TAYLOR:
So when he had Prince...

863
00:35:45,604 --> 00:35:46,939
AARON:
Daddy loves you.

864
00:35:48,023 --> 00:35:49,441
TAYLOR:
...that was everything to him.

865
00:35:49,441 --> 00:35:50,901
AARON:
Hey, sweet boy.

866
00:35:51,568 --> 00:35:52,694
[Aaron chuckles]

867
00:35:52,694 --> 00:35:54,029
Oh. [chuckles]

868
00:35:56,448 --> 00:36:00,661
♪

869
00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:07,292
TAYLOR:
Aaron called me, uh, in June.

870
00:36:07,292 --> 00:36:09,461
He was very adamant about doing this tour.

871
00:36:09,461 --> 00:36:12,798
Um, he felt like this is how
he's gonna make money,

872
00:36:12,798 --> 00:36:16,343
you know, he's got his kid,
he's a new father, and he needs to work.

873
00:36:17,344 --> 00:36:19,763
The best Aaron was a working Aaron.

874
00:36:19,763 --> 00:36:21,598
He felt like he was
in his safe place again

875
00:36:21,598 --> 00:36:23,475
and he felt like
he was finally getting back

876
00:36:23,475 --> 00:36:25,394
into a purpose, right?

877
00:36:25,394 --> 00:36:26,979
♪

878
00:36:26,979 --> 00:36:29,773
KAILA METHVEN:
It seemed like a new door
or a new path had opened for him.

879
00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:35,654
He even said it was like
one of the best days in a long, long time

880
00:36:35,654 --> 00:36:37,573
that he was happy to be on set again.

881
00:36:37,573 --> 00:36:39,324
The legendary Aaron Carter.

882
00:36:39,324 --> 00:36:41,618
Mwah!
You look fabulous.

883
00:36:41,618 --> 00:36:43,453
- And-and you look shiny and beautiful.

884
00:36:43,453 --> 00:36:44,955
- Oh, thank you, sweetheart.

885
00:36:44,955 --> 00:36:46,832
- The day that Aaron
went on Kaila's talk show,

886
00:36:46,832 --> 00:36:48,417
he was really focused.

887
00:36:48,417 --> 00:36:50,085
- How's it going?
- Oh, good, good.

888
00:36:50,085 --> 00:36:52,212
And how are you?
- I'm good, I'm good.

889
00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:54,298
- He loves being on talk shows.

890
00:36:54,298 --> 00:36:57,509
He likes to tell the truth
and, you know, say what he feels.

891
00:36:57,509 --> 00:37:00,888
- I went into rehab four times
until I finally got it right.

892
00:37:00,888 --> 00:37:03,223
- And you know what?
Amen, you got it right.

893
00:37:04,266 --> 00:37:05,851
- Thank you. Thank you.

894
00:37:05,851 --> 00:37:08,937
KAILA: The moment when he said that,
"I went to rehab four times,"

895
00:37:08,937 --> 00:37:12,065
and that he was really trying
to be his best person

896
00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:13,859
is what really stood out to me

897
00:37:13,859 --> 00:37:15,652
because I really believe that.

898
00:37:17,237 --> 00:37:18,822
♪

899
00:37:18,822 --> 00:37:20,949
NOGEN BECK: I didn't know
what was gonna happen that day.

900
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:24,620
I was photographing for a pilot.

901
00:37:25,454 --> 00:37:27,372
KAILA:
I hired him to come on set

902
00:37:27,372 --> 00:37:29,625
and just take headshots of everyone.

903
00:37:31,001 --> 00:37:33,754
NOGEN: Celebrities,
they want to appear aspirational,

904
00:37:33,754 --> 00:37:36,757
whereas as soon as
Aaron got in front of the lens,

905
00:37:36,757 --> 00:37:38,759
I was just sensing
something completely different.

906
00:37:38,759 --> 00:37:42,930
♪

907
00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:44,348
Aaron wanted to connect.

908
00:37:45,516 --> 00:37:47,351
Aaron wanted to be genuine.

909
00:37:47,935 --> 00:37:50,771
Aaron wanted to be accepted
for who he was.

910
00:37:50,771 --> 00:37:53,732
♪

911
00:37:53,732 --> 00:37:54,816
It was two minutes.

912
00:37:54,816 --> 00:37:59,071
There were probably
55 just show-stopping images.

913
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,115
It's a lot. That's a lot.

914
00:38:02,699 --> 00:38:05,118
KAILA:
He was living his life again

915
00:38:05,118 --> 00:38:06,870
after four years of, you know,

916
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:09,748
trying to get himself
into the right position.

917
00:38:09,748 --> 00:38:12,334
- He and his friend
approached me at the end

918
00:38:12,334 --> 00:38:17,047
and asked me to, uh,
photograph his album cover.

919
00:38:18,257 --> 00:38:23,303
It looked to me like a person that was
really eager to express himself anew.

920
00:38:23,303 --> 00:38:25,848
♪

921
00:38:28,016 --> 00:38:34,064
♪

922
00:38:35,524 --> 00:38:37,150
- I think he was putting on a face

923
00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:40,654
and... I think he was
in a lot of personal pain

924
00:38:40,654 --> 00:38:44,783
and, um, very lost
the last two years of his life.

925
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:47,995
♪

926
00:38:47,995 --> 00:38:49,997
We were on that tour.

927
00:38:49,997 --> 00:38:51,748
I said, "What is it like to be you?

928
00:38:53,458 --> 00:38:56,295
What is it like to be famous
for better or worse?"

929
00:38:56,295 --> 00:38:57,921
♪

930
00:38:57,921 --> 00:38:59,631
This was a point
where the cyberbullying stuff

931
00:38:59,631 --> 00:39:03,177
had gotten... quite outta hand.

932
00:39:04,303 --> 00:39:05,888
And we had, if you can believe it,

933
00:39:05,888 --> 00:39:08,390
a dedicated group who bought tickets

934
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:11,685
to every single show just to heckle Aaron.

935
00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:14,188
They'd post from on their social media

936
00:39:14,188 --> 00:39:15,772
and a hold up signs like, "I hate you."

937
00:39:15,772 --> 00:39:19,276
We got off stage
and he was visibly, like, hurt

938
00:39:19,276 --> 00:39:21,403
and he calmly,
he just looked at me and he said like,

939
00:39:21,403 --> 00:39:23,697
"You remember what you asked me?"
And I said, "Yeah."

940
00:39:23,697 --> 00:39:26,366
And he said,
"It feels like this, every day."

941
00:39:27,409 --> 00:39:30,204
It was kinda like being in, like,
your own little prison, you know.

942
00:39:30,996 --> 00:39:33,707
A life of criticism,
a life of never enough.

943
00:39:34,708 --> 00:39:35,959
I-I think he hated it, you know,

944
00:39:35,959 --> 00:39:37,252
and that's why he'd act the way he would.

945
00:39:37,252 --> 00:39:42,508
♪

946
00:39:44,593 --> 00:39:47,471
MELANIE:
The end of '22,

947
00:39:47,471 --> 00:39:50,891
his mental health was not all there.

948
00:39:50,891 --> 00:39:53,560
Aaron and I did lose custody of Prince.

949
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,479
♪

950
00:39:55,479 --> 00:39:59,149
I think that the real downfall
was him losing custody

951
00:39:59,149 --> 00:40:01,985
and not knowing what was gonna happen.

952
00:40:01,985 --> 00:40:04,238
♪

953
00:40:04,238 --> 00:40:07,282
Basically, Aaron had a manic episode.

954
00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:10,619
We had a heated fight
and it was, you know,

955
00:40:10,619 --> 00:40:12,204
lingering on for a few days.

956
00:40:14,081 --> 00:40:15,707
Thank you, Princey.
[Prince coos]

957
00:40:15,707 --> 00:40:20,045
♪

958
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:25,801
The uncertainty of, like,
what was gonna happen,

959
00:40:25,801 --> 00:40:28,011
and there was just too much going on.

960
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,515
Him trying to rebuild his career,
our relationship,

961
00:40:31,515 --> 00:40:34,184
he was thinking about family all the time.

962
00:40:35,352 --> 00:40:38,230
I don't know, it was just a lot
for any person to handle,

963
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:39,731
let alone somebody that says

964
00:40:39,731 --> 00:40:41,859
they have mental health issues, you know.

965
00:40:41,859 --> 00:40:43,318
♪

966
00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:45,070
TAYLOR: He was trying to do
everything in his power

967
00:40:45,070 --> 00:40:46,113
that he could do,

968
00:40:46,113 --> 00:40:48,574
fighting that addiction to get to a place

969
00:40:48,574 --> 00:40:51,201
where he could retain custody of his kid.

970
00:40:51,201 --> 00:40:53,829
♪

971
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:56,123
Unfortunately, his life
and the way he was living

972
00:40:56,123 --> 00:40:59,042
called into question
his ability to raise that kid.

973
00:41:03,797 --> 00:41:08,427
♪

974
00:41:08,427 --> 00:41:11,471
CHRISTY CARLSON ROMANO:
I never claimed to know Aaron that well.

975
00:41:11,471 --> 00:41:13,098
♪

976
00:41:13,098 --> 00:41:16,018
What I wanted to do though
was get to know him well.

977
00:41:16,018 --> 00:41:17,728
♪

978
00:41:17,728 --> 00:41:19,021
A lot of people know me

979
00:41:19,021 --> 00:41:22,733
from Disney Channel's
golden era of programming,

980
00:41:23,692 --> 00:41:25,402
which included Even Stevens

981
00:41:25,402 --> 00:41:27,070
where I co-starred next to Shia LaBeouf.

982
00:41:27,988 --> 00:41:29,740
- Oh, hi, Ren, uh,
can I ask you something?

983
00:41:30,282 --> 00:41:31,700
- You just did. Bye.

984
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,619
♪

985
00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,580
I definitely had
a pretty rough time acclimating

986
00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:40,375
socially and emotionally

987
00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:42,878
to life after Disney, I'd say.

988
00:41:42,878 --> 00:41:44,213
MAN:
Christy!

989
00:41:44,213 --> 00:41:45,506
CHRISTY:
What people didn't see, you know,

990
00:41:45,506 --> 00:41:47,758
it's like I flirted with self-harm.

991
00:41:47,758 --> 00:41:49,301
PHOTOGRAPHER 1:
How about an over-the-shoulder?

992
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,345
PHOTOGRAPHER 2:
Wow, you're looking good.

993
00:41:51,345 --> 00:41:54,223
- Obviously alcohol
was a coping mechanism for me.

994
00:41:54,223 --> 00:41:56,099
♪

995
00:41:56,099 --> 00:41:59,478
Now I have a podcast
that's a mental health-focused podcast

996
00:41:59,478 --> 00:42:02,272
that's grabbing a lot of headlines

997
00:42:02,272 --> 00:42:05,651
because I've become sort of an advocate

998
00:42:06,151 --> 00:42:08,612
for former child actors.

999
00:42:08,612 --> 00:42:11,698
- The acting was almost like
a home that wasn't broken.

1000
00:42:11,698 --> 00:42:14,326
- There were times that I was in
fuckin' tabloids as a kid and stuff.

1001
00:42:14,326 --> 00:42:16,453
- There was so much upheaval in my life

1002
00:42:16,453 --> 00:42:19,331
that acting became that...
that thing for me.

1003
00:42:19,331 --> 00:42:22,668
- Because I was like, cut the shit
because I know how I feel

1004
00:42:23,585 --> 00:42:28,048
and I know that you must
share some of the same experiences.

1005
00:42:29,591 --> 00:42:32,177
♪

1006
00:42:32,177 --> 00:42:33,804
When I saw Aaron online,

1007
00:42:33,804 --> 00:42:37,933
I felt like he wasn't
displaying his best self.

1008
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:40,644
And so there was a part of me
that was trying to be

1009
00:42:40,644 --> 00:42:42,729
the big sister and help him.

1010
00:42:42,729 --> 00:42:44,898
♪

1011
00:42:44,898 --> 00:42:47,317
- Christy had reached out
to do a interview with Aaron

1012
00:42:47,317 --> 00:42:49,236
and, you know,
this was kind of during that period

1013
00:42:49,236 --> 00:42:50,779
where Aaron was starting to flake out

1014
00:42:50,779 --> 00:42:52,656
on some obligations, you know,

1015
00:42:52,656 --> 00:42:56,076
which kinda coincided
with some of the more erratic behavior

1016
00:42:56,076 --> 00:42:57,619
that we were seeing towards the end.

1017
00:42:57,619 --> 00:43:00,372
♪

1018
00:43:00,372 --> 00:43:01,707
- Whew.

1019
00:43:01,707 --> 00:43:04,668
I'm like unexpectedly shaking, um,

1020
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:08,463
and I think it's probably because--

1021
00:43:08,463 --> 00:43:11,049
♪

1022
00:43:11,049 --> 00:43:12,134
Um--

1023
00:43:12,676 --> 00:43:14,595
I haven't really processed this.

1024
00:43:14,595 --> 00:43:17,014
♪

1025
00:43:17,014 --> 00:43:21,602
Aaron was scheduled on my podcast,
that was in September.

1026
00:43:21,602 --> 00:43:23,228
I shoot ahead of time,

1027
00:43:23,228 --> 00:43:26,315
so that means that Aaron's episode...

1028
00:43:27,191 --> 00:43:29,401
[sighs] ...was meant to air

1029
00:43:29,401 --> 00:43:31,111
a couple months down the line.

1030
00:43:31,111 --> 00:43:33,155
♪

1031
00:43:33,155 --> 00:43:36,867
Hey, so today on Vulnerable,
I am my own guest.

1032
00:43:36,867 --> 00:43:39,328
♪

1033
00:43:39,328 --> 00:43:43,081
We had a wonderful guest,
um, booked to come on,

1034
00:43:43,081 --> 00:43:46,084
but you know,
currently we don't have an ETA

1035
00:43:46,084 --> 00:43:47,836
on whether that guest is able to come.

1036
00:43:48,712 --> 00:43:53,717
♪

1037
00:43:53,717 --> 00:43:57,763
I knew something was wrong
when he didn't show up.

1038
00:43:57,763 --> 00:44:03,310
♪

1039
00:44:07,606 --> 00:44:10,317
- In the final kind of weeks, month,
uh, with Aaron, you know,

1040
00:44:10,317 --> 00:44:13,278
he started missing deadlines
and missed a couple shows

1041
00:44:13,278 --> 00:44:15,614
and sessions and-and, you know,

1042
00:44:15,614 --> 00:44:17,950
that was incredibly
uncharacteristic of him.

1043
00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:19,409
♪

1044
00:44:19,409 --> 00:44:21,411
CHRISTY:
He was doing these disturbing Lives.

1045
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,456
And it just felt really eerie.

1046
00:44:24,456 --> 00:44:26,667
[rattling]

1047
00:44:27,793 --> 00:44:29,711
One of the final Lives he did,

1048
00:44:29,711 --> 00:44:32,965
there was some sort of
like a strange sound

1049
00:44:32,965 --> 00:44:34,633
that was coming from his room.

1050
00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:37,344
[hissing]

1051
00:44:37,344 --> 00:44:38,720
[Aaron muttering]

1052
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:42,140
[muttering continues]

1053
00:44:43,141 --> 00:44:44,685
And at that point I was like...

1054
00:44:46,603 --> 00:44:48,188
the clock's ticking.

1055
00:44:48,188 --> 00:44:50,774
♪

1056
00:44:50,774 --> 00:44:52,693
It was very, very disturbing.

1057
00:44:52,693 --> 00:44:54,903
♪

1058
00:44:54,903 --> 00:44:57,030
- The huffing thing, um,

1059
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:59,700
that was a pretty good indicator
that it was hittin' the fan.

1060
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,785
♪

1061
00:45:01,785 --> 00:45:05,205
- I was out of the house and I said,
"Is this real?"

1062
00:45:05,205 --> 00:45:06,957
And he said, "No, I'm messing with you."

1063
00:45:06,957 --> 00:45:08,166
And I said, "No, you're not."

1064
00:45:08,166 --> 00:45:09,793
♪

1065
00:45:09,793 --> 00:45:11,086
TAYLOR:
Well, he denied it.

1066
00:45:11,086 --> 00:45:12,921
He said, you know,
"It's fake, it's not real,

1067
00:45:12,921 --> 00:45:14,089
they all think I'm huffing."

1068
00:45:14,089 --> 00:45:16,508
♪

1069
00:45:16,508 --> 00:45:17,509
MELANIE:
I said, "This is serious."

1070
00:45:17,509 --> 00:45:20,179
So I called a welfare check on him

1071
00:45:20,179 --> 00:45:22,598
and then I called a neighbor
and they went through the window

1072
00:45:22,598 --> 00:45:23,891
'cause I was two hours away.

1073
00:45:23,891 --> 00:45:25,350
- I kept pressing the issue, you know,

1074
00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:26,977
I kept pressing the issue
and pressing the issue

1075
00:45:26,977 --> 00:45:29,438
and eventually, um,

1076
00:45:30,856 --> 00:45:32,399
eventually he owned that.

1077
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,818
OPERATOR:
B-cam. Mark.

1078
00:45:34,818 --> 00:45:37,154
BRENDEN BORROWMAN:
Aaron's team reached out to me last fall.

1079
00:45:37,946 --> 00:45:40,908
The first concern was his use of huffing

1080
00:45:40,908 --> 00:45:43,702
and if there was
a treatment protocol available

1081
00:45:43,702 --> 00:45:45,871
to help remediate that.

1082
00:45:46,663 --> 00:45:48,498
TAYLOR:
Aaron was doing an outpatient program.

1083
00:45:48,498 --> 00:45:50,209
The outpatient was not cutting it.

1084
00:45:51,168 --> 00:45:53,086
We were trying to find him some help,

1085
00:45:53,086 --> 00:45:55,380
try to get him back, back on the wagon.

1086
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:57,716
- So step one
would've been flying out to Utah.

1087
00:45:57,716 --> 00:46:00,886
♪

1088
00:46:00,886 --> 00:46:03,138
And he would've been there for 14 days,

1089
00:46:04,765 --> 00:46:06,934
working with all of our specialists

1090
00:46:06,934 --> 00:46:09,520
and getting to a point where we felt
comfortable and confident

1091
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,063
for him to move to the next phase,

1092
00:46:11,063 --> 00:46:12,564
which is more just emotional coaching.

1093
00:46:12,564 --> 00:46:14,441
♪

1094
00:46:14,441 --> 00:46:16,401
He would've been completely off the grid.

1095
00:46:18,028 --> 00:46:19,279
And then the following two weeks

1096
00:46:19,279 --> 00:46:21,657
the team would've went back
to California with him

1097
00:46:21,657 --> 00:46:23,325
to help him adjust.

1098
00:46:23,325 --> 00:46:25,035
- We're talking the real deal.

1099
00:46:25,035 --> 00:46:26,328
And that's a massive commitment,

1100
00:46:26,328 --> 00:46:28,080
and he was terrified to do that.

1101
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,708
♪

1102
00:46:31,708 --> 00:46:36,839
His excuse was, "I'll do it,
I need to get my son back first."

1103
00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:38,173
♪

1104
00:46:38,173 --> 00:46:41,552
And my argument to him is,

1105
00:46:41,552 --> 00:46:43,804
I would think the other way around

1106
00:46:43,804 --> 00:46:45,889
would probably have been
the best way to go.

1107
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:48,016
He didn't wanna hear that.

1108
00:46:49,434 --> 00:46:53,856
He was stuck in a really deep,
very long addiction

1109
00:46:53,856 --> 00:46:55,566
that he battled his whole life.

1110
00:46:57,693 --> 00:47:00,320
By the time he realized
he needed to beat that monster,

1111
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,073
I think the monster
was a little too big, you know.

1112
00:47:03,073 --> 00:47:05,158
♪

1113
00:47:07,953 --> 00:47:09,496
OPERATOR:
18 Gold, take three. Marker.

1114
00:47:09,496 --> 00:47:11,164
- ♪ Nobody notices anything, not one-- ♪

1115
00:47:11,164 --> 00:47:12,708
I did that when I was 15, 16.
MAN: And we're set.

1116
00:47:12,708 --> 00:47:13,667
AARON:
Twenty years ago.

1117
00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:14,835
WOMAN: Hmm.
AARON: Jesus.

1118
00:47:14,835 --> 00:47:16,044
MAN:
And we're set.

1119
00:47:17,838 --> 00:47:18,672
DIRECTOR:
Action.

1120
00:47:20,215 --> 00:47:24,219
- I feel like the weight of the world
is on my shoulders.

1121
00:47:24,219 --> 00:47:25,262
I--

1122
00:47:26,555 --> 00:47:28,849
I've seen a lot,

1123
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:31,685
I've been through... a lot.

1124
00:47:31,685 --> 00:47:33,937
♪

1125
00:47:33,937 --> 00:47:37,107
But mostly I'm... I'm judged...

1126
00:47:37,107 --> 00:47:39,109
♪

1127
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:43,071
without ever having a chance
to share my side of the story.

1128
00:47:43,739 --> 00:47:45,157
And trust me, there's,

1129
00:47:46,825 --> 00:47:48,619
there's always two sides to every story.

1130
00:47:48,619 --> 00:47:50,370
♪

1131
00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:52,206
- In October 2022,

1132
00:47:52,206 --> 00:47:56,251
I had absolutely no indication

1133
00:47:56,251 --> 00:47:59,505
of him struggling
while we were on set.

1134
00:47:59,505 --> 00:48:00,839
- Who's throwing the grapes?

1135
00:48:00,839 --> 00:48:03,509
- We would win.
No, there's gotta be teams. Babe?

1136
00:48:04,384 --> 00:48:05,469
- Go further.

1137
00:48:06,553 --> 00:48:07,387
[all cheering]

1138
00:48:07,387 --> 00:48:09,264
OLIVE CHIACCHIA:
I think that Aaron wanted to share

1139
00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:11,683
more about the positives
and the successes

1140
00:48:11,683 --> 00:48:14,019
that he's had in the last couple years

1141
00:48:14,019 --> 00:48:18,190
that felt so overshadowed
by all of the issues

1142
00:48:18,190 --> 00:48:20,150
he had around addiction and mental health.

1143
00:48:20,943 --> 00:48:24,112
- There's a, a stigma against me.

1144
00:48:24,112 --> 00:48:26,073
♪

1145
00:48:26,073 --> 00:48:30,035
Like I'm this... bad guy.

1146
00:48:30,035 --> 00:48:32,162
- It's possible that he was,
that he was going through it,

1147
00:48:32,162 --> 00:48:35,582
but when he came on set,
like, that guy was just a pistol.

1148
00:48:35,582 --> 00:48:36,667
He just, he crushed it.

1149
00:48:36,667 --> 00:48:39,253
- I'm Aaron.
- [stammers] Hey-hey, I love you.

1150
00:48:39,253 --> 00:48:40,838
- Definitely is his best self
when he's working

1151
00:48:40,838 --> 00:48:42,339
because he's doing what he loves

1152
00:48:42,339 --> 00:48:44,091
in an environment
where people love him back.

1153
00:48:44,925 --> 00:48:46,426
OLIVE:
As soon as the lights were on,

1154
00:48:46,426 --> 00:48:47,970
he was on, he was ready.

1155
00:48:48,428 --> 00:48:51,265
He knew his lines,
frontwards, backwards, sideways.

1156
00:48:51,265 --> 00:48:52,808
He knew everybody's lines.

1157
00:48:53,892 --> 00:48:55,936
BRIAN FARMER:
I felt like he was really trying

1158
00:48:55,936 --> 00:48:57,187
and I think towards the end of his life

1159
00:48:57,187 --> 00:48:59,106
was when he was
really trying to turn it around,

1160
00:48:59,606 --> 00:49:01,066
more so than any other time before.

1161
00:49:01,066 --> 00:49:05,362
- If people just listened,
if they really, really listened,

1162
00:49:07,489 --> 00:49:09,533
they'd know it doesn't just stem from me.

1163
00:49:10,659 --> 00:49:15,789
Blame it on... childhood,
blame it on circumstances,

1164
00:49:17,082 --> 00:49:18,458
blame it on my brother.

1165
00:49:20,419 --> 00:49:24,548
But just know that I've turned it around

1166
00:49:26,925 --> 00:49:28,218
and I've got a lot to say.

1167
00:49:31,471 --> 00:49:36,143
♪

1168
00:49:42,733 --> 00:49:45,319
DISPATCHER [over radio]:
Attention, Lancaster units, code three.
Response is needed.

1169
00:49:45,319 --> 00:49:47,863
♪

1170
00:49:47,863 --> 00:49:50,157
[Melanie crying]
[indistinct chatter]

1171
00:49:50,157 --> 00:49:52,034
- It's okay, it's okay, it's okay.

1172
00:49:52,034 --> 00:49:54,119
[crying] It's okay, it's okay.

1173
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,121
♪

1174
00:49:56,121 --> 00:49:58,332
MELANIE:
I got a phone call that the,

1175
00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:01,084
the house sitter found him.

1176
00:50:01,084 --> 00:50:04,171
[crying continues]

1177
00:50:05,339 --> 00:50:07,090
♪

1178
00:50:07,090 --> 00:50:10,177
[indistinct radio chatter]

1179
00:50:10,177 --> 00:50:11,762
DISPATCHER:
...121.

1180
00:50:11,762 --> 00:50:13,305
Lancaster unit in three or less.

1181
00:50:13,305 --> 00:50:15,140
♪

1182
00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:17,184
- I called Nick,

1183
00:50:17,184 --> 00:50:19,102
and I said, "Hey, bud."

1184
00:50:19,102 --> 00:50:20,062
Uh--

1185
00:50:21,605 --> 00:50:23,524
I'm hearing some things
about your brother.

1186
00:50:23,524 --> 00:50:25,943
♪

1187
00:50:25,943 --> 00:50:26,860
[cries]

1188
00:50:29,571 --> 00:50:30,781
MELANIE:
I was actually in shock,

1189
00:50:30,781 --> 00:50:32,449
like, I didn't even know it was--

1190
00:50:32,449 --> 00:50:34,785
Everyone told me, they're like,
"Melanie, you were in shock,

1191
00:50:34,785 --> 00:50:36,370
like, you didn't,
you were in another world."

1192
00:50:38,997 --> 00:50:43,335
♪

1193
00:50:43,335 --> 00:50:45,963
God.
[inhales and exhales]

1194
00:50:45,963 --> 00:50:47,840
♪

1195
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,132
[sighs] God.

1196
00:50:49,132 --> 00:50:50,509
♪

1197
00:50:50,509 --> 00:50:53,011
- I woke up about ten o'clock

1198
00:50:53,011 --> 00:50:56,723
and I got a call about 10:20, so--

1199
00:50:56,723 --> 00:50:59,268
♪

1200
00:50:59,268 --> 00:51:00,310
It was crazy.

1201
00:51:00,310 --> 00:51:01,812
Right when I got that call,

1202
00:51:01,812 --> 00:51:04,857
every news outlet
on the planet started calling.

1203
00:51:04,857 --> 00:51:06,650
NEWSCASTER:
Breaking news tonight,

1204
00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:10,529
singer and reality TV star
Aaron Carter has died.

1205
00:51:10,529 --> 00:51:12,364
- Aaron Carter was found dead
here inside his--

1206
00:51:12,364 --> 00:51:14,241
NEWSCASTER:
Remembering Aaron Carter.

1207
00:51:14,241 --> 00:51:16,910
- Bad news indeed.
Aaron Carter, just 34 years old.

1208
00:51:17,953 --> 00:51:19,830
- I believe it was in my social media

1209
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:21,206
that he had passed away.

1210
00:51:21,206 --> 00:51:22,040
[cell phone chimes]

1211
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,501
- I got an alert on my phone,
like a push alert.

1212
00:51:24,501 --> 00:51:25,502
[cell phone dings]

1213
00:51:26,170 --> 00:51:27,880
- I think I found out on Twitter.

1214
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,466
- I actually got a text.

1215
00:51:32,926 --> 00:51:37,014
- It immediately made me
feel like I was nine again

1216
00:51:37,014 --> 00:51:38,807
and that he was also nine,

1217
00:51:38,807 --> 00:51:42,019
and I was like, "Well, he's so young,
like, he's a little kid."

1218
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:45,856
♪

1219
00:51:45,856 --> 00:51:47,149
[inaudible]

1220
00:51:47,149 --> 00:51:49,109
- There’s a part of you that’s just like,
"Damn it."

1221
00:51:49,735 --> 00:51:51,570
Knowing he’s a father now

1222
00:51:52,154 --> 00:51:57,784
and knowing how hard he had tried
to turn his life around.

1223
00:51:57,784 --> 00:51:59,119
He ran out of time, you know.

1224
00:52:00,245 --> 00:52:02,080
He ran out of time
to get his happy ending.

1225
00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:04,791
- Aaron Carter's legacy is tied

1226
00:52:04,791 --> 00:52:08,003
to the legacy of what happens
to child stars everywhere.

1227
00:52:08,712 --> 00:52:10,422
It's a reminder of how quickly

1228
00:52:10,422 --> 00:52:13,091
you are used up and forgotten...

1229
00:52:13,091 --> 00:52:14,259
[audience cheering]

1230
00:52:14,259 --> 00:52:15,677
♪

1231
00:52:15,677 --> 00:52:16,678
[laughs]

1232
00:52:16,678 --> 00:52:17,930
...not just by your audience,

1233
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:20,390
but by the machine

1234
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:22,601
that employed you in the first place.

1235
00:52:22,601 --> 00:52:25,521
[cheering]

1236
00:52:25,521 --> 00:52:28,273
[indistinct]

1237
00:52:28,273 --> 00:52:32,194
MAN: Tonight, uh, we've got
a little bit of heavy hearts,

1238
00:52:33,362 --> 00:52:36,114
because we lost one of our
family members yesterday.

1239
00:52:36,114 --> 00:52:38,909
♪

1240
00:52:38,909 --> 00:52:40,202
AJ:
We were in London.

1241
00:52:40,202 --> 00:52:43,539
Nick was just... hysterical.

1242
00:52:43,539 --> 00:52:46,667
Um, he was angry, he was sad,

1243
00:52:47,292 --> 00:52:49,044
probably every emotion you could imagine.

1244
00:52:49,044 --> 00:52:51,088
[overlapping chatter]
- Ask Cliff, Cliff knows.

1245
00:52:51,088 --> 00:52:54,424
AJ: Because even though
they never reconciled,

1246
00:52:54,424 --> 00:52:56,134
that's still your baby brother.

1247
00:52:56,134 --> 00:52:58,178
[squeals]
[indistinct chatter]

1248
00:52:58,178 --> 00:53:00,806
♪

1249
00:53:00,806 --> 00:53:02,683
TAYLOR:
One of the last things we talked about

1250
00:53:02,683 --> 00:53:06,562
was his regret about his part
in his relationship with his brother.

1251
00:53:07,479 --> 00:53:08,856
And they had reached out to each other,

1252
00:53:08,856 --> 00:53:11,275
same with Angel, his sister.

1253
00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:13,652
♪

1254
00:53:13,652 --> 00:53:16,071
Even through the bad
and a lot of the tough things

1255
00:53:16,071 --> 00:53:17,990
that Aaron went through in his life...

1256
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:20,200
♪

1257
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,370
under that person there was
an incredibly wonderful soul.

1258
00:53:23,370 --> 00:53:24,496
- What's up, y'all?

1259
00:53:24,496 --> 00:53:26,373
[cheering]

1260
00:53:26,373 --> 00:53:28,542
- There are still people
singing his songs.

1261
00:53:28,542 --> 00:53:30,294
♪

1262
00:53:30,294 --> 00:53:31,503
- ♪ I want candy ♪

1263
00:53:31,503 --> 00:53:33,547
AARON:
Let's go! Jump, jump!

1264
00:53:33,547 --> 00:53:35,841
DR. STORK: At the end of the day
he wanted to be viewed

1265
00:53:35,841 --> 00:53:37,759
as a musician and a performer.

1266
00:53:37,759 --> 00:53:40,053
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

1267
00:53:40,053 --> 00:53:41,847
[cheering]

1268
00:53:41,847 --> 00:53:43,140
♪

1269
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:44,808
He cared a lot about his fans.

1270
00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:46,685
♪

1271
00:53:46,685 --> 00:53:48,437
Deep down, he was like a good kid.

1272
00:53:48,437 --> 00:53:52,983
♪

1273
00:53:52,983 --> 00:53:54,860
MELANIE:
I want Aaron to be remembered

1274
00:53:54,860 --> 00:53:59,948
as the funny, smart,
caring, and forgiving human

1275
00:53:59,948 --> 00:54:01,783
that he was to a lot of people.

1276
00:54:02,367 --> 00:54:04,244
[indistinct yelling]

1277
00:54:04,244 --> 00:54:05,996
[camera shutter clicking]

1278
00:54:06,580 --> 00:54:10,042
- Aaron Carter's life story
in one sentence?

1279
00:54:16,006 --> 00:54:17,341
A beautiful tragedy.

1280
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:23,055
'Cause he did have a beautiful life
when things were good.

1281
00:54:26,016 --> 00:54:27,142
Beautiful tragedy.

1282
00:54:29,144 --> 00:54:33,899
♪

1283
00:54:47,538 --> 00:54:50,874
The last thing I'll say is just to
anyone out there that's struggling,

1284
00:54:50,874 --> 00:54:52,000
you're not alone.

1285
00:54:52,668 --> 00:54:57,047
There is multiple ways to ask for help.

1286
00:54:57,047 --> 00:55:00,008
There is hotlines, there is programs.

1287
00:55:01,051 --> 00:55:03,387
But the biggest thing is you're not alone

1288
00:55:03,387 --> 00:55:05,931
and don't be afraid to ask for help.

1289
00:55:07,266 --> 00:55:10,561
Uh, you know, before it's too late.

1290
00:55:19,736 --> 00:55:25,659
♪

1291
00:55:31,707 --> 00:55:37,171
♪ Go on, carry the weight
of the world on your shoulders ♪

1292
00:55:37,546 --> 00:55:43,343
♪ So far you're telling me
with no words of your own ♪

1293
00:55:43,343 --> 00:55:48,599
♪ Well, I've been waiting so long ♪

1294
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:54,563
♪ Will you give me
something to hold on to? ♪

1295
00:55:54,563 --> 00:55:59,067
♪ If you're gonna say it, well ♪

1296
00:56:00,569 --> 00:56:05,365
♪ Then you better say it now ♪

1297
00:56:05,824 --> 00:56:08,535
♪ Before it's too late ♪

1298
00:56:08,535 --> 00:56:11,705
♪

1299
00:56:11,705 --> 00:56:14,416
♪ Before it's too late ♪




